Rudy's Ramblings

[rudy]

I'll go in alphabetical order, since I cant remember names, just the first letters.

Just some background info for the Tay-Tay, after Ethan, me Carter and Spencer at least from my perspective were the Outliers of the Coron tribe. Frosti-Penner-Coach were close, Richard was kind of ambiguous, and Jon was well...insane. But after Jon's big explosion, Richard chose to side against us, and Frosti quit giving us the power. Jon and Spencer knew each other from another game called Pirate Cove( yea yet another pre-game for him), and Penner was solidly against me, so Carter was the clear swing vote the round Penner left over Jon.

I am not sure what went down when Coach left, or what your strategic reasoning was, so if you could elaborate more on that that would be great.

I do feel however Carter you kind of lost your way at the merge, and you're giving yourself a little too much credit. I don't believe you convinced anyone to save you the rounds Richard and Allie went home. You largely lucked out in these rounds being the target for both of them, the round Allie left you have to thank Nadiya for that one (I had you written down to vote for both rounds, changed to Richard/Allie later). The round Richard left from what I understand had more to do with appeasing Jefra than anything you did specifically. 

You do earn some credit for recognizing Jefra and Spencer needed to be separated, although at the Final 6 it's not like we had a whole lot of other options. Your 2 big moves that I feel got you to this point was siding with us to take out Penner then making that deal with Ashley at the Final 5. If we were to look at who in the final 3 was the closest on many occassions to nearly being voted off, and escaped by the skin of their teeth, it would be you, and like I said I don't see what you did the first 2 times you "saved yourself", but your public alliance to Ashley in tribal council was a BRILLIANT move.

Natalie, your big mouth really annoyed me this game because not once...but twice you threw me under the bus to a person who had my life in their hands, namely Erica and Ashley, and the 2nd time was extra gritting cause I told you even to not do it again and may have damn well cost me my spot in the finals. Quite frankly, after this game I don't know if I'll be able to trust you again in the future. I'm going to try and not let my personal distaste for you let me affect my decision here.

With that being said, you were a challenge beast, 3 Fire Making challenges, all times your ass was on the line at the Beginning, Middle and very end of the game, and you pulled it out. You were the one leading the charge the round Allie left. Gina had told Jefra to split the vote on you on you for whatever reason (They didnt trust Jefra as she was a supposed Stooge member).We knew Erica was bootlisting her, Ashley is always up for a pointless blindside for lawls, and Carter didn't need too much convincing since he was the target. The Fake Idol....was fucking brilliant. I don't know how you managed to convince the entire cast...EVEN ASHLEY WHO HAD 2 FUCKING REAL IDOLS...that your idol was indeed real too. That kept the target off you almost the entire merge and it's quite rare a Fake Idol works so well, you may have gotten the most mileage out of a fake idol i've seen playing these things.

From a strategic standpoint, you were by far the best of this Final 3, Socially...I'm not sure yet, time will tell and in terms of challenges, 2nd only to this next guy....

Stanley! First off, I have to commend your challenge prowess, Natalie is definitely no push over and you consistently beat her in these immunity challenges, and that definitely has to count for something. It is the reason you are in the Final 3, because were it not for that, you would without a doubt be on the jury right now. No one wanted you in the end because you would have Jefra and Allie's vote automatically. At the start of the game you were the next one to leave after Ethan ( and probably me after that), we thought you were inactive, but you were kind of biding your time, so kudos on that! If I had known you were going to enter NERDMODE STANLEY at the Final 8, I'd have pushed for you to leave when Richard did, you hid it well.

Otherwise...what else did you do lol? Sure, you won that Alpha challenge and made some obvious nominations, Carter and I both collaborated with you on that though. I don't really see what you did in the game completely on your own, the rounds Allie and Jefra left, you clearly did not want them to go since they were your Pre-Game, and you were powerless to stop it. Carter and I lost a lot of trust in you when you rushed to Allie the very instant we told you she was going, and then you lied to my face about it. I mean let's face it, you got here in large part by Immunity whoring all the way here, there was rarely a time your vote really mattered. As a matter of fact, had you been wiser you'd have voted off Nadiya last time and brought Ashley to the finals.

Stanley, what is your connection to Jefra and Allie?..and please don't insult our intelligences here and deny there is one. I'm sure pretty much everyone on the jury (myself included) knew other people in the game, but I'm just curious cause you were very close to those 2.




Good Luck to the 3 of you!

[Carter Williams]

Hey Rudy!

First off, I'll explain the Coach boot since you asked for clarification, but it's a lot like the Richard one (at least in my eyes). Basically, the men came in to Nouveau Tay-Tay outnumbered, as usual. There wasn't a doubt in my mind that Gina, Ashley, Jefra and Allie weren't gonna turn on each other and had to vote out a guy. Coach, it turned out, wasn't all that pissed about the Penner vote, and me and him ended up being on reasonably good terms (although it was clear he had formed a quick bond with Ashley). I was in trouble that round, Ashley made it clear when she avoided my "who do we vote for" questions. I was able to turn the tables, though, and convinced Jefra and Allie that Coach was a bigger threat. Basically, I convinced the women to spare me and my alliance and take out a wildcard, despite the fact I had to betray an (ish) ally. I also knew this would be helpful later, because we were already down 8 - 6, so I knew that getting rid of guys was a good call. It ended up being extremely useful.


Out of the two moves you're asking about, the Allie vote was definitely my softer play. I, without a doubt, owe Nadiya a ton of credit. I knew I was in trouble, but I didn't have the numbers I needed. I was able to sway Ashley (with Nadiya's help) and get spencer to flip on Allie (which was harder than you'd think). Though luck did I play a part in that vote, I owed a lot to pre-existing relationships that I had formed, which allowed Allie's allies and orginal tribemates (Nadiya and Ashley) to ultimately trust me more than her.


The Richard vote, though, I believe I played a big part in. Right off the bat, after the challenge, I spread Richard's name around to everyone and gave my reasons for wanting him out. I didn't even attempt to target the 4 or so girls who I'd barely spoken to, I targeted an ally of mine to eventually further myself. I gave many people (notably Allie, Jefra and Ashley) reasons to doubt Richard. Jefra and I, luckily, were on the same page. I proposed it to her and she felt the same way, so I was lucky in that regard. Maybe, appeasing Jefra was a big part of the Richard vote, but I'm the one who gave her the idea and therefore took the heat off my back that way. 

[Spencer Bledsoe]

Hey Rudy!

I didn't come into the game with any alliances like "let's go to the Finals together" with anybody, and I didn't know anybody on the original Coron. I can't believe Jon claimed to know me from another game, he never told me about that lmao, but I think it's kind of a blessing and a curse being the guy from Australia who is awake until 5am since I can be immediately recognised by somebody from another game without me being able to recognise them as easily, because there probably aren't a great deal of people who fit my general description, whereas there is no shortage of players from all over the United States and Canada.

Having said that, after I got to Taytay and I had my first conversation in the Taytay group chat, I recognised Jefra because there aren't too many people from 'Europa' who say "lel" in every reply. So I got talking with Jefra and we recognised each other - we had played 2 games that I know of together, and on both of those occasions we liked each other and wanted to align, but one of us was voted out early and it never got anywhere. So I wanted to see if there was a chance that we could work together in this game. Also, the guys were in a minority, so I thought this could be my avenue to change that.

As for Allie, one night Allie was up late by North American standards and I was here and we got chatting about a lot of things. One thing led to another and we started talking about NCIS: Los Angeles and I think she probably recognised me long before I recognised her from another game because she probably hasn't played with too many Australians who are obsessed with NCIS: Los Angeles, and so one thing led to another and I realised who she was too, and I wanted to work with her as a result.

Having said that, yes I knew these guys from other games, but I didn't actually work with them in this game. Yes I was reluctant to vote them out to some extent, but I did vote them out, and the only alliances that I was completely true to in this game were the relationships that I formed in this game alone. Jefra also voted for Carter on 2 occasions that we went to Tribal together, and voted for other boys on the other occasions, while Allie also was voting for Carter the night she went home, and I was completely against that as they were going after my closest ally. Yes I gave Allie a heads up about the vote as a professional courtesy, but I let her know with less than an hour to go just to give her a fighting chance, and she really didn't have much time to do anything about it. You're probably right in saying that everyone knew someone - that's just the way things go with ORGs - but the alliances I made and the alliances I fought for were established in this game and not before, and I hope you can respect that.

Regarding your other question and what I did on my own, I was going to make those nominations regardless, it was the smartest thing to do, and you guys agreed, but going beyond that, I pushed to keep Carter and myself safe at those Coach and Richard votes, I made connections with different people to varying degrees that gave me a lot of options and I made that late game deal with Nadiya which I didn't end up needing, but I think it was a good play. You said that it would have been wiser for me to vote out Nadiya and bring Ashley here, but I had given somebody my word and I was always going to honour that, so if that costs me the game, so be it, but I kept my word and I feel good about it.

I'm not too sure why you perceive my vote to have seldom been important, considering the close nature of all of these post-merge votes, minus the Richard and Jefra votes which were not close. Gina approached me to take you out after the Alpha Challenge but my loyalty was to the boys and while Gina raised some great points, I stuck with the boys which is who I wanted to go to the end with. And my vote was instrumental in Nadiya's survival as it forced the tie that allowed her to fight her way here.

Thanks for your questions Rudy, I hope I've addressed your queries and thanks for working with me throughout the game. I hope you are reunited with your lost son Frosti soon, if Jeff can find him somewhere.

[rudy]

You may have voted Jefra and Allie off, but they were going whether you voted with them or not., which was why I said your vote wasn't too important, even in the final 4 it didn't matter that much of you forced a tie or not, Ashley may have been easier to beat but you still had a lot of votes locked up in the jury either way.

[Spencer Bledsoe]

Nov 9, 2014 8:47:44 GMT rudy said:

You may have voted Jefra and Allie off, but they were going whether you voted with them or not., which was why I said your vote wasn't too important, even in the final 4 it didn't matter that much of you forced a tie or not, Ashley may have been easier to beat but you still had a lot of votes locked up in the jury either way.

That's fair in the context of the Jefra and Allie votes, but I think my vote was important in other votes (most notably, Gina's vote and your own) otherwise there wouldn't have been a majority.

[rudy]

Nov 9, 2014 9:16:59 GMT Spencer Bledsoe said:

Nov 9, 2014 8:47:44 GMT rudy said:

You may have voted Jefra and Allie off, but they were going whether you voted with them or not., which was why I said your vote wasn't too important, even in the final 4 it didn't matter that much of you forced a tie or not, Ashley may have been easier to beat but you still had a lot of votes locked up in the jury either way.

That's fair in the context of the Jefra and Allie votes, but I think my vote was important in other votes (most notably, Gina's vote and your own) otherwise there wouldn't have been a majority.

Well what else were you gonna do right, vote me off and go with Gina

[Spencer Bledsoe]

Nov 9, 2014 9:25:34 GMT rudy said:

Nov 9, 2014 9:16:59 GMT Spencer Bledsoe said:

That's fair in the context of the Jefra and Allie votes, but I think my vote was important in other votes (most notably, Gina's vote and your own) otherwise there wouldn't have been a majority.

Well what else were you gonna do right, vote me off and go with Gina

Gina was really happy not to have been one of the three 'nominated' when I won the Alpha Challenge and made a really solid proposal at the time, which was a play to save herself but she was willing to vote out either yourself and she would repay the favour of not being nominated by siding with either Carter/Jefra/me in order to give a majority against whoever got through the other Tribal Council because she owed them nothing, while you did have connections with those girls - Nadiya saved you back on Coron which was a huge moment in the context of the game and showed a strong connection definitely existed between the two of you, and Gina's connections were terminated after the other girls flipped on her to vote out Allie, and so we could have formed a majority alliance.

It was tempting because by voting Gina out, we have us three still together but Jefra would be isolated and could be unpredictable with her vote, whereas if we took a risk, it could place us in a better position.

Unfortunately, this was the night of my big assignment and I didn't get to discuss things much with Carter, but I wanted to stick with the boys and honour my word to you guys, and so I did. And ultimately it got both Carter and myself to the end, which I'm happy about.

[Gina Crews]

*pops in*
Just quickly wanted to say that the offer was to vote out either Rudy OR Jefra to save me. Had either been done, I'd have been 100% loyal to Spencer the rest of the game cause as he just said...I had no any other connections at that point.